The inequalities in greenspace access for our urban dwellers has been felt most acutely by many of the UK’s most deprived urban neighbourhoods during lockdown, and a recent National Trust report supported by Greenkeeper has identified some 295 ‘grey deserts’ in particular need of a rethink. But how do we address this systemic under-provision for the future? We brought together Ellie Robinson, lead for the National Trust report and, following her recent collaborations with Public Health England, Dr Danielle Sinnett a green infrastructure academic at UWE, with the Greenkeeper team (Robin Smale and John Haxworth) to discuss this challenge and the response required by government and industry alike. A call for 1% of the gross infrastructure capital investment budget seems a small ask given the £220bn return on public health it would deliver doesn’t it?